With apologies to our friends and colleagues in the news analysis business who want so badly to cast the outcome of Tuesday's election in the grandest possible terms (quick, what's bigger than a tsunami?), in the context of history, electoral victories by the opposition to the sitting president's party are so common they're to be expected.
Through the graph-tacularity of Steve Benen at The Washington Monthly we can see clearly in the downward-projecting bars that in almost every case, the president's party loses seats in Congress in the midterm elections.
Not only are Tuesday's results unexceptional, they actually represent a return to normalcy. Despite all the revolutionary chest pounding, mixed party control of Congress is the norm for America - single party rule was the oddity.
Rachel explains:






SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY FROM A PLUTOCRACY!!
You should have on the awesome Chris Hedges: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EpeF1fcji0
You should also push segments on STRUCTURAL REFORMS that the Dems should focus on for the next 2 years which would ensure a more progressive election result:
-vote-by-mail (higher turnouts)
-popular vote instead of electoral college for president
-public financing of elections
-proportional representation / parliamentary-style seat apportionment by party in the House (which would also give more power to 3rd parties like the Greens to force Dems to be more progressive)
-only allowing single-terms for every position (i.e.- so there is no worrying about re-election when voting on bills)
-enfranchisement of all ex-convicts, and even all people in prison (like in the EU, and like the UK was recently forced to do)
etc....... Without these reforms there will be no way to stop the trend of the center moving farther and farther to the right, or our democracy functioning in any meaningful way. These are the real reasons behind the Tea Party's rise (they don't understand that, but it's true)!
Why not wish for a unicorn while you're at it? None of these reforms are even remotely likely, and it's not clear to me that all are even desirable. (The single-term one sounds absolutely TERRIBLE to me). Most of them would require a constitutional amendment. good luck with that.
40% mid-term voter turnout in ohio = gop wins.
80% 2008 turnout = dems win.
ITS ALL ABOUT VOTER TURNOUT!
STOP OVER-ANALYSIZING.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39995283/ns/politics-decision_2010 - Citizens United put a nail in the coffin of democracy. Case should have been captioned "Corporations United"
I think the point everyone is missing here is thepoint the point that nobody desires to admit. Our country has not been a true democracy for thirty years, but everyone wanted to put their heasds in the sand and not believe it. What we have seen, in a big way, this year is the extent of oligarchy thast our country truly is, and there is no way out. In order to get our democracy back we have to get through this oligarchy: How can we do this? With the dumbing of America seemingly complete there leaves little hope for America. As an example of my assertion here one need look as far as our Supreme Court!
I believe your 30 years is an under-estimation. The tide began turning after WWII. Mass marketing was in full bloom and the real deception of America was well underway. The dumbing down started way back then. Corporate America/an oligarchy, yes we are indeed. Bachmann, ... investigate members of Congress to "find out if they are pro-America or anti-America." We apparently must relive McCarthyism to see if that'll shake any sense into us (and it won't)!
Dr. Maddow, I too found it highly amusing that the president and others have said that they are ready to compromise with Republicans. I'm so glad I'm not alone.
I'm glad to see that Bill O'Reilly's predictions regarding suicide at MSNBC have not come to pass. He must be terribly disappointed. Maybe you could send him a fruit basket or something.
How's this for historical context: the very chart Rachel cited proves that it was the largest midterm swing since Democrats lost a historic amount of seats to the GOP in '38 during FDR's second term as the electorate grew weary of New Deal programs, yet to her and many other liberal pundits it is expected, common, and unremarkable.
That doesn't even take into account the presidential election year of '48, in which Truman fought as the underdog in a re-election campaign against Dewey and an obstructionist, counterproductive, "do-nothing" Republican-controlled congress not unlike the one we are about to face within the next 2 years, which resulted in his legendary re-election and historic gains for Democrats in the House. If we look to Truman, then, Republican inaction and obstruction within the next two years could lay the foundation for Obama's reelection and gains in Congress.
Yes, the incumbent president's party usually loses seats during midterm elections. You've been repeating that fact for the entire election season. What is unusual is the extent to which Democrats lost this year - more so than in any election since '48, and the largest midterm swing since '38. It's unfortunate, but significant given the current circumstances. Maddow (and the annoyingly smug writer of this post) shouldn't, therefore, claim some sort of moral superiority in contrast to other pundits. I'm equally bothered by repetitive beltway pundit common wisdom, but she'd be saying the same things if it was the party she favors making historic gains. Its intellectually dishonest, and she's better than that.
I was going to make a statement much to the same point. The only thing I'd add is that there were 2 other election cycles in which over 50 seats were lost. So on the extreme there's 70 in '38, two loses of 50+ seats, and one loss of 60 (between 1936-2010). To whatever extent you can believe polling, it seems that people are very disgruntled about our current government- in particular, our current Congress. After a bit of research what I found was that every time Democrats have suffered such huge losses (to be defined here as 50+ seat losses) it has coincided with a Congressional popularity rating of 20% or less. Our current Congress, for instance, is at 11% according to Gallup- the lowest it's been since that 70 seat loss. Contextually speaking this is a pretty significant loss, but I don't think it's significant for the reason that you'll be hearing on the news either. It is significant for the distrust factor it shows in legislative competency. Americans don't seem to trust Congress to do anything. I do not think it is accurate to state that this a tsunami of conservatism, but all data suggests that it is dissatisfaction with government in general that drove voters. Exactly what voters are dissatisfied with and what they want to see government doing in the future seems to vary from poll to poll. I can't seem to find many consistencies with exit polling data (looking on ABC's website) other than job dissatisfaction and dissatisfaction with Obama. More specific data doesn't seem to be available. From what I can see of ABC's past polls, the general furor over Congress seems to be very similar to that of 1994 (with the obvious exception of more significant losses).
I should also add, in the sake of fairness, that there are 9 election cycles between 1936-2010 in which Democrats lost seats. 4 out of those 9, Dems lost 50+ seats. So in order to contextualize the losses Dems received fairly- it was more significant than the 2 50+ losses, but not as significant as the 70 seat loss. And also, it wasn't unexpected outside of the realm of elections in the sense of loss in general (out of 20 election cycles shown all but 3 saw losses and 8 were near, at, or beyond the 50 seat loss margin; out of those near, at, or beyond 6 were Dem and 2 were Repub). So again I wouldn't call this a giant omg everybody freak out cataclysmic loss, I just wouldn't say that it wasn't significant. It was, according to the data TRMS provided, an outlier election. The most journalists and pundits should be taking away is that this was a slightly higher than average loss to the Dems and to any party during a mid-term election which seems to coincide with higher Congressional disapproval ratings.
It's also interesting to me that Republicans have never suffered a 50+ seat loss (they've came close to it, though) during this time span. I wonder if that's because Republicans haven't, between 1936-2010, held as significant majorities or if it's because of the "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line" adage? It's curious none the less.
Baron Hil had none stop negative adds on TV and I don't have any idea who put up the money for the adds. We could not compete against that much cash.
You have done some hilarious, witty skits on your show that had me laughing out loud. Your interview with Rand Paul was right on the money and seemed to catapult you into the next journalistic league. But alas, that was an aberration. You’re still a lightweight, no business doing business on Sunday morning (or Saturday morning or something in the weekend afternoon) with the heavy weight crowd. One week before the election someone invited you to a roundtable (face the nation? Meet the press?) and gosh darnit you were exposed. Let me paraphrase one of your statements – a statement that made me cringe: “The voters who showed up and voted for Obama will come out again impact this election…” Oh really? Was that from the head or the heart? Wishful thinking or naivete? Now you post a graph with historical data. You should have dug out that data prior to the election (maybe you did, which makes your statement that much worse) and in some way acknowledged there would be a sweep, a tidal wave – no, not a tsuanami. But no, like any amateur you let your emotions get the best of you, let your mind swirl in a fantasy land… I admire the work you do to promote gay rights and equality – but you really are one dimensional, politically speaking. You have a big stage on a big network – well, not that big a network – and I wonder why…entertainment I guess, because you ARE funny sometimes. Stick to that….a stint every now and then on Letterman…that is your forte. Leave the politics alone. I’d say you are no better than the avg Joe on the streets in that arena…but even that would be a stretch. Admittedly, however, I must say, if you were to broker a beer summit, I would be delighted to attend. I have no doubt it would be a blast…
What are you talking about?
Why is posting a graph with "historical data" (which, by the way, is the best kind) showing that, in fact, the windbag "experts" that clutter those tables on the Sunday mornings you speak of pedantically went far overboard in talking about this midterm election as the apocalypse for progressives. In fact, all this savvy graph shows is that voters did what they always do in midterms...from which we can conclude that 1) it's not a "tidal wave" against Obama specifically but against the sitting president and 2) it's not the big deal the "real news people" are saying it is.
Since you undertake your critique in such a condescending way my guess is that RM's analysis and, actually, her entire agenda (telling the truth) which she openly discusses over and over again has flown over your head, which is likely white male and full of social privilege. That's okay. It happens to the best of us, a category which your chicken-scratch writing suggests you may not be in...but honestly...you sound much more like Joe the Plumber than Rachel.
I'm not sure why I'm so compelled to respond to this except that RM is one of the only points of intellectual light in a political world full only of bluster and manufactured images (some tragically so). If you like the sleazy, underhanded world, fine.
But keep your beer to yourself. She's not interested. And you're not funny.
emare, what Rachel Maddow actually said on Meet the Press October 24 was:
You can look it up. Meet the Press posts transcripts of their shows. Based on the early voting numbers that were available at the time, that was a very reasonable statement. Was it also a bit hopeful? Perhaps. But later in the discussion, Rachel also said:
Pretty accurate assessment of the whole election, I'd say. Closer than many thought, and not a Republican landslide - not if you consider both the House and the Senate.
The graph above was prepared by Steve Benen of the Washington Monthly, and he posted it on November 3rd. So I am not sure why you state that Rachel "should have dug out that data prior to the election".
Perhaps you have not been watching the show, but Rachel has been saying for some time that history indicated a lot of Democratic seats would be lost during this midterm election, even without Benen's graph for support.
I would much rather hear Rachel Maddow's take on issues of the day from the MTP roundtable than, say, Harold Ford Jr., David Brooks or Rick Santelli.
While it's true that the President's party almost always loses seats in the mid-term election, the results of Tuesday's election were hardly typical. It might mean a "return to normalcy" but the end result was hardly normal. You have to go back to the Great Depression years to see a swing as large as we saw Tuesday night.
There is no other way to paint this than utter failure for the Democrats and a repudiation of Barack Obama's policies. To believe otherwise is to be drowning in denial. Two years ago the Democrats swept into power, owning all three branches of government, jammed unpopular bills down our throats and buried us in debt the country won't get out of in our lifetimes. And, who do you say is to blame for all of this - two years out from this total power? George W. Bush!
Citizens across this country know better and a very loud message was sent Tuesday night. That message is "you're not listening to us!" We are taxed too high, yet you keep on spending. The government is too big, yet you keep on growing it. THAT is why the Dems find themselves in this position today.
Keep blaming it on Bush... 2012 isn't that far away and if you think Tuesday's results were horrible for you, wait until the next election is over.
The Democrats "buried us in debt". Bush came in with a surplus and left us with a record deficit. It may not be fashionable in your circle, but try reading!
I did not say we were in great financial shape when Bush left office. However, do a little reading yourself. Compare the debt now to two years ago.
Please, do. If you look at the debt now, you will actually notice the strides the Obama administration has made in the two years to get the country back on track. The strides could've been even longer were it not for the "Just say No" politicians and lobbyists.
No, the Obama administration and Democrats do not have all the answers, but at least they have a feasible plan. Where is the Republican economic plan? Where is their medical plan? Their housing plan? Their education plan? Their fiscal "plan" for the past 8+ years has proven deplorably unworkable. But yet, their attitudes suggest "the plan" will somehow miraculously flourish if given another chance. Their politics do not boil down to a plan for the people. It boils down to a mere question of power.
George Orwell must have had a crystal ball when he wrote "1984":
"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
So Charles, then I suppose you will not have a problem agreeing with the President that we should not extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich which, as Mitch McConnell even admits, will add $700 billion to the US deficit
Actually yes, for now. For a couple of reasons.
1. Short term, I don't believe raising anyone's taxes during this economy is the right thing to do. Someone may have announced "the recession was over months ago", but ask one of the near 10% of Americans out of work if they believe it's over and see what they tell you.
2. Longer term however, a complete analysis of the budget and spending needs to be done. I don't think you can point to one thing and say "we need to change this" in order to improve things. I would likely be in favor of across the board spending cuts of all discretionary spending and a thorough review of our entitlement programs needs to be made. It just may be that those programs could be more effective if tweaked or overhauled.
Those things aren't popular with many people but it's what I believe is the right thing to do. But, I'm not running for office so I can safely suggest such things.
What we can't do, is continue to spend money thus increasing the size of the debt and grow government even bigger. Our problem is not that we're not taxing people enough. The problem is government is spending too much - way too much.
More government is not the solution to our problems. It IS the problem.
Whenever I hear that Tuesday was a "shellacking" I thought the same as you pointed out---not really. This is pretty normal and having opposite parties control the house and senate is the norm. Everyone, especially the Republicans, need to tone it down and stop acting like this an "historic turn of events." Relax and breathe.
I love Rachel, but to some degree this is a bit of spin. First of all, if you look at that graph, the last bar close to the size of what happened in 2010 was in 1994 and it hadn't been this bad since the 1940s. I think it's a mistake to just say "oh, this was normal" and do nothing. I'm not sure what needs to be done, but pretending that this was no big deal isn't the answer. Honestly, I think it will be difficult for democrats for a while until there is something done to deal with the huge amount of anonymous corporate funding for GOP candidates that was unleashed in that horrible Citizens United ruling.
I'm not saying the response should be a horrible gnashing of teeth of "Oh, woe is us, we were shellacked", but rather a serious thinking of a strategy for what to do to fix whatever the issues were. Some were obviously beyond anyone's control, since a weak housing market, 9.6% unemployment, and a foreclosure crisis were going to hurt the party in power no matter what you try to do in terms of messaging. One thing did seem to be clear was there was no coherent party message. Some candidates embraced democratic policies, and others ran away from them. Yes, more blue dogs lost than progressives, but I wonder how much of that is from the nature of the district. Blue dogs are more likely to be in swing districts than progressive members. I'm getting a little rambly, but I guess my point is that one needs honest analysis of what happened in order to figure out how to fix it.
"A bit of a spin"? Come now. It's nothing but spin!
Much as I admire President Obama, I have to say I am disappointed in his response to questions about the election. He insists on saying he is willing to work with the Republicans. It is impossible to work with some one who is not willing to work with you.
After Mitch Mcconnell said the most important thing he hopes to accomplish is to make sure Barack Obama is a one term President, how can there be any hope of bipartisan cooperation.
We need to resurrect Harry Truman.
Until we change our two party system our choices will always be between a conservative party and a less conservative party. There are no viable parties in America that represent the interests and values of liberals.
There are two ways of breaking the stranglehold by the GOP and the Dems. First we need to change the all-or-nothing Electoral College system we have for the Presidency, where up to one half of a state's votes may not count. This is beyond undemocratic (and please spare me the semantics argument that this isn't a democracy).
Secondly we need to change our voting system. In some countries in Europe and elsewhere you can rank your picks when you vote. So let's say you want to vote for a party that isn't Dem or GOP, you give that one as your first choice and then you choose a second, etc. So if your first choice doesn't get enough votes then your vote goes to the next guy you'd want. This will end "wasted" votes.
Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans will ever agree to these changes on their own, both have been corrupted by their power. The only way it'll happen is for a large public outcry that demands it, a non partisan outcry. I think this is the single most important issue we face as a nation, the only way we can stop this poisonous binary system of government and have elected officials that more accurately reflect the will of the people.
Rachel you have the power to introduce this concept to many and I hope you'll do so.
The "all or nothing" Electoral college system is a state-by-state issue and in fact there are 2 states that do not have that in place. In fact Obama got one electoral vote from NE because they don't have an all or nothing system. Having a ranking system sounds nice, but the question is which one. All of them have flaws. (Google "Arrow's Impossibility Theorem").
State by state or not the fact remains that the vast majority of states use this archaic system. As for the flaws of ranked voting, no system is perfect but it would still be leaps and bounds better than our current one.
I might suggest you start your version of the Tea Party. Like them or hate them, there is no denying they had an impact on the outcome and, at the very least, stirred interest and involvement in the most recent election.
If you don't think the Democratic party is liberal enough for you, rather than overhaul the voting system in order to craft an outcome you will find satisfactory, start a movement for liberals. The true test of success will be in the numbers who enthusiastically embrace it and, most importantly, who votes accordingly.
This is an issue beyond liberal or conservative, this has to do with democracy. I'm not interested in starting my own party, I'm interested in elected officials having a broader and more accurate representation of their constituents.
You're still wishing for unicorns though. I'd probably like IRV and a Maine/Nebraska style system for the electoral college as well, but changing each state is a difficult task and amending the constitution is even more difficult. And as to a parliamentary system, I prefer the flaws of our 2-party system to the multi-party parliaments in countries like Italy or Israel. When no major party gets an outright majority of the votes, what happens is they have to form coalitions. This gives minority parties huge influence because how they choose to align can make a huge difference. I'll pass on that.
Our two party system works. Just because the outcome of an election isn't what you'd hoped isn't a reason to change a time-honored, proven system.
Any thinking person is not going to agree with every proposal for "their" party or candidate but you have to choose the best of the options and go with it. It's that same spirit of compromise we demand from our elected officials. You size up the candidates and pick the one you believe is the best suited for office.
I voted for Barack Obama in 2008, not because I'm a liberal and die-hard Democrat - in fact I'm a life-long Republican. I voted that way because I thought a fresh start and change was what was needed and the best choice of candidates at the time was Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin. Of course, I would have preferred a better option on the Republican side but that was my choice and I made my decision accordingly.
The system works just fine. We just need better candidates from which to choose - on both sides of the aisle.
You must be kidding - what proven system? A system of corruption, a system of bought-out candidates, ... an oligarchy. Bring back Jesse Ventura, "...the two-party system, it — to me, it gives you one more choice than communist Russia..." I was disillusioned with the lack of a system years before Ventura came into politics but he nailed part of the problem very succinctly.
I'm sick and tired of voting for someone to vote against the other fellow. This system is long corrupted and long broken. My god, what choice - 1) He's really bad or 2) Maybe on the outside he doesn't seem quite as bad as 1). No, we're falling off a precipice.
Returning our country to a democracy isn't even remotely likely either, but it's still worth fighting for.
Welcome to the Corporatist Neofeudalism of America. Come for the illusion of capitalistic prosperity, stay for the totalitarianism.
Thank you Rachel for pointing that out. I think that if the Republicans govern from the point of dismantling the government, they will be ousted as quickly as they got elected. They are going to have to work with Dems.
Well done, Rachel, as always.
And the most remarkable thing about all this? The fact that this is the best the Republicans were able to do even with all that corporate cash in their coffers and with public opinion turning against the Democrats. I know a lot of liberals and Democrats were bummed out by this election but I found it encouraging that with everything going for them, the best Republicans could pull off what a slim take-over of the House. We lost ground in this election, but we did not lose the big battle.
How can any sane person claim this was the "voice of the American people" when 65 to 80% of eligible voters (80% of 18-30 year olds) could not even be bothered to vote? Assuming a 45/55 dem/repub split this means that approx. 18%-22% of eligible voters voted for the winners. And this is the world's greatest democracy? What a joke.
Why does this undeniable fact go virtually unmentioned election after election? Why out of the thousands of hours of political punditry broadcast every year and the millions of words written is so little attention paid to this?
There can be only one answer: The gatekeepers want it that way.
Why do the young not vote? They are simply to busy twittering their lives away to make the effort. To them I say, Enjoy your illusions - Reality Bites
Well first off the last line of your post was certainly cute, I enjoyed that very much thank you.
The problem is with generalizing voters at all. It's impossible to ultimately know why anyone votes ever unless that person self admits. Study wise, though, there is too much variance within political science to know for sure why someone votes or why they vote the way they vote. Even when studies are released paraphrasing exit polling data- this is still skewed information being that a. usually the percentages you'll get are around 50% of respondents (implying that 50% have a differing view) b. exit polling is self service response (which means those who're inclined to answer are usually those who're more passionate and who have more...let's say loud views...) c. exit polling typically tries to assume the voter's animus, which skews polling towards answers pre-meditated by those giving the survey (even when done non-partisanly, there is still a problem of skewed answer response).
Roughly every election we have, only about 40% of the nation comes out (on a good election). Mid-term elections typically see less than that, and local elections typically see around 20% or less of the electorate turn out. The majority of Americans do not vote. If you consider that in 2008 when Obama was elected roughly 50% of those eligible to vote actually did and that Obama won by roughly 51% of the electorate, that means only roughly 26% of America voted for our current president, while roughly 24% voted for McCain. That's kind've the sad nature of our politics when you realize it.
Why people don't vote is an entirely different question. Prejudicing my generation as if we're all lazy and obsessed with twitter, while funny, isn't necessarily fair or accurate. Some people don't vote because they can't get the time off work (this would apply to states that don't have mail-in ballots, I should add). Some people don't vote because they can't physically be present in a line (for disability reasons or what have you) and are unable to do mail in voting. Some people aren't capable of getting to a polling place without assistance (lack of reliable transportation)- I should point out that this is often why you will have Democrats and "Get Out the Vote" elections because if you can provide transportation to polling places, the number of people who vote goes up dramatically. The same is also true when you have mail in voting. A great many people don't vote because they don't know enough about politics and economics (the issues) to feel safe voting (I.E. I am too uniformed to make a decision). Many people don't vote because they don't feel their vote matters. Some don't vote because they see it as a form of protest of the way government is running (I.E. I am disgruntled with government and therefore refuse to participate in government as a result). Others don't vote because they hate politics and hate discussions of. Some don't see what happens in Washington as affecting them. Some vote because they feel satisfied enough with their lives to not see any immediate necessity behind voting (I.E. I'm happy so there's no need to change anything). And many more don't vote because they feel they have no good or applicable choices to make (I.E. I hate all eligible candidates/policies).
Voting in America for political means is not as convenient as it is on American Idol or by other means. So yes, you will always have more people (especially people my age) voting for things that are easier to access than you will a general election. If you put voting on cell phones, you would likely see the turn out go up. If you made mail-in voting available to every state/county/city, turn out would go up. If you provided public transportation to and from voting places on election day, turn out would go up. If elections lasted for more than 1 day, turn out would go up. There are many things that can be done to increase voter turn out (although the multiple day voting thing I think would require a constitutional amendment but yeah). Blaming my generation for low turn out isn't necessarily fair.
You are correct though- pretending like the Tea Partiers have some mandate by all of America is wrong. Just like it's wrong to pretend that anyone else who won an election had a mandate. The fact is Jackson was wrong when he came up with the idea of a political mandate, but this idea will not be rescinded by any president or party because with it comes something called the bully pulpit. And as long as that exists, parties and politicians will always claim they represent "America" instead of just "the people who voted for me."
I love this right-wing talking point about this being the "second largest win in history." Sure, but it was nowhere near as devastating as predicted and not a clear refutation of Obama's policies. Most of the Dems that were shown the door were the conservative "blue dog" Democrats. Most of those re-elected were liberals. And it's pretty obvious that a lot of Republicans won because they were backed by corporate money and out-spent their competitors. All that advantage and they *still* don't control the Senate.
But whatever. I hope the Republicans enjoy their superiority dance. Whatever helps them sleep at night.
"Most of those re-elected were liberals."
That is because the largest number of seats up for re-election were House seats that represent a particular district. Districts made up primarily of Liberal voters, voted for Liberal candidates. To suggest the country didn't vote out Liberals based on how they voted in House elections is only telling a small part of the story.
Barney Frank being re-elected in his liberal district, for example, is no surprise at all. A more telling story are the state-wide elections such as Senate and Governor races.
When you have a Republican in Mark Kirk taking the President's old Senate seat in Illinois, that's significant!
When a long time liberal Senator such as Russ Feingold loses a state wide election in Wisconsin, that's significant!
When "rust belt", long time Democrat states such as Michigan and Ohio elect Republicans for Governor, that's significant!
When the Democratic Senate Majority Leader (Harry Reid) barely squeaks by against a very weak and arguably unqualified candidate, that's significant!
As Paul Harvey would have said... "Now you know the rest of the story!"
Reid won by over 10 points, the hell are you smoking? Mark kirk won by less than 2 points. Again, what are you smoking? And you're assuming Ohio and Michigan are liberal states. The problem with your bias is you don't understand MI or OH. People make these generalizations about states that because a state has voted more blue for President in the past, that suddenly means the entire state is a liberal lefty state. OH and MI are very conservative (OH especially). The only portions of those states that aren't very conservative are the more popularized cities. And guess what- that is true of every state in the damn nation. Typically speaking more people live in the larger cities and district wise usually you end up with people getting voted in who're blue more often than red. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN that the larger cities always trump out the rural areas. I suggest you look up the electoral history of MA, MI, and OH instead of making assumptions *eye rolls*
Let's see a graphical comparison of 2008 and 2010. Was this a bigger rejection of Democratic politics than the rejection of Republican politics we saw two years ago? I would guess not, but a picture would be worth a thousand words...
I really think there needs to be a left equivalent of the tea party. Electing politicians just wont do the trick, when all the TV images taken from the street only show the other side carrying shields. Someone needs to organize events, which are big and public enough to proof, they represent a larger group and scandalous enough to get medias attention.
The problem is, someone needs to do it. MSNBC wont do it, as they dont want to follow FOX's example. Obama was great in organising events in 2006-2008, but he cant do it now, because he is the president. There probably wont be any big Koch-brothers-like spenders for left-wing parties either, so the material logistics of having a big crowd of people travel to meeat at any one place will also be challenging. Liberals best hope might be some artists, willing to compromise their brand name with politics. Lady Gaga/Kayne West for 2012? Because every realistic person knows, you must demand the impossible?
We're @!$%#ed. It's over. Good knowing you America.
People aren't taxed too little. Government spends too much!
The republicans weren't voted out of office in 2008 because citizens suddenly turned liberal. Many (Republicans and Democrats alike) were dissatisfied with the previous administration and believed it was time for a change. The liberals took that opportunity to take the country as far to the left as fast as they could and that's not where the people are.
The country didn't sign up for massive government and out of control spending when they voted for Obama. They voted for a fresh start. They voted for hope and a change to how business was done in Washington. What they got was an expensive, unbending, far left agenda that couldn't print money as fast as it was spending it and with nothing to show for it.
The people saw unemployment actually go up and stay there. They saw the deficit spiral out of control. They see their children's grandchildren being the ones to hopefully dig out of this financial mess.
Those reasons (and others) are why the American public voted the way they did. Not because of some historical trend as Ms. Maddow would have you believe, but because the people were angry at what the Democrats delivered and saw more of the same on the horizon.
The American people spoke as clearly this past Tuesday as they did in 2008, maybe more so.
Actually
A. America has moved further right than it has left- there are only 80 liberals in office so I'm not really sure what you're basing this idea that the country went radically left on
B. The same logic you use about Republicans can be turned to use on Democrats so it's probably safe to say your analysis is incorrect in either case
C. Explain where and exactly how Obama has grown government more so than other presidents have in their first 2 years in office?
D. The deficit wasn't out of control before Obama took office? do tell; also unemployment wasn't spiraling and skyrocketing before Obama took office? do tell
E. You do not know anymore than anyone else why someone voted in this election- all you know is why you voted and possibly why those whom you associate with voted. It is statistically impossible to accurately assess why anyone votes the way they do. This has always been true in political science. Figuring out why people do or don't vote and why they vote the way they do (or don't) is the hardest question to answer in political science. You cannot generalize voting results into any category- and for the record this is why people don't turn to you for punditry advice.
Thanks for keeping me sane this past week! You rock!
Here's the data for your graph: the Dems gained 21 seats in 2008; the Reps will gain ~64 seats in 2010.
bigger than a tsunami?
a world flood, a la many religions or the movie "2012"? tho maybe an ice age -- it's still water, after all -- would be more apt.
PS - heh; maybe "title" wave, since they wanna title it as something more grand and significant than it is. ok, relatively significant.